Two short reviews (the same or similar to those we both have up on goodreads) about the Diviners, for more thoughts check out our book chat!
Katastrofekat's thoughts: I
loved this book. I didn't know what to expect going into the book, as I
have never read anything by Libba Bray before or read much set in the
1920's. I have always found the 1920's fascinating, but haven't
actively seemed it out in the books I read. So I went into this book
without much background. That wasn't a problem at all. Libba Bray has
written a wonderful book which was so captivating from the first
chapter, that I just didn't want to put it down. I read the whole book
in three days, I was so eager to find out how it ended.
I liked the
main character and I found her well written. She was a rounded person
with bout flaws and strengths. The way the main plot unfurled itself
felt natural and the story was believable.
I want the next book in the series to come out now please! I need to know how the story will continue.
Kiwie's thoughts:
More please. Now. I read
this book in big chunks and loved it. It is fun and entertaining, but
not without substance. Fun, thrilling and it accessed/manipulated my
feelings in a way that I liked. I clutched my reader and read as fast as
I could to get to the next part or the answer sometimes. While other
times I just enjoyed hanging out with the people filling the pages.
Evie
O'Neill was a great character, yearning for attention and fame, but not
cruel and careless in a way that would make you think she would walk
over dead bodies to get there. She did stupid things, she wasn't
super-smart, but she wanted to do right, and she put in the effort when
she had to. I liked her a lot.
I liked the minor characters as
well, especially Memphis, and I would have loved to learn more about
Theta. I love it when I can understand a character's reasoning, even
when it is flawed/I disagree with it, and for the most part I could
with every important character in the Diviners. Yay!
Naughty John
was scary, a great bad guy and monster. I like how your own belief is
what matter, and how they had to deal with John according to his etc. I
loved the whole cult of Brethren aspect, I've always been fascinated by
cults, and religious fanatics in general. I don't understand how someone
can believe so strongly in anything, nor how someone can be swooned
into these beliefs/ways of living etc.
Also:
The setting of the 1920s in New York city made me super happy. I love
the decadent part of the 20s, the reckless spending and parties. The
fashion. Everything like that, the "glitz and glamour". I romanticize a
bit I guess, but I just like it, and find it a powerful proof of how in
denial people can be, as while things were great for some, it was
terrible for others, and not in another country, but within a city or
area.
Sunday, 23 December 2012
I think someone woud have to knock me unconscious to keep me from reading the next book!
What followes is a bookchat between
Kiwie and Katastrofekat, about the book The Diviners
by Libba Bray
Katastrofekat
: So, where to start then?
Kiwie
: We both read the book superfast, which probably means that
we both liked it a lot. What was your favorite thing?
Katastrofekat
: I really liked Evie, and that her personality was so well
written. I liked that she wasn't a perfect person
Kiwie :Yeah, she was not a Mary Sue, she had real flaws, and I
really liked that.
Katastrofekat : Yes. And i also appreciated that the supernatural elements
in the book were so easily accepted, that a large part of the book
didn't disappear in the characters coming to terms with magic being
real.
Kiwie : Yes! Most of the characters were already aware of their own
abilities, or that it existed so few of them were shocked. I really
liked that not everyone knew about the others. They were all so close
to each other, if only they talked. I think Evie is the only one who
"came out" to anyone other than their absolute nearest/in a
situation dependent of it. It also didn't define their personalities.
Kiwie : Nobody had a personality comprised of "their
specialness" and then "oh, they liked to read, or watch
movies" they all had normal ambitions and wishes and we got a
peek into more than just one side of them, which was really neat.
Katastrofekat : Yes, that is true. I also liked that Libba Bray had included
such things as her friends crush on, whats his name... her uncles
assistent, without it taking us away from the main story. She was
successful in creating small breaks form the excitement, so my brain
got a little break, but not making the book to long either.
Kiwie :True. The plot was fast paced even with the breaks, and I
suspect that a lot of that will help build the overarching plot of
the series. I also really wanted to get to know some of the
characters not so close to Evie better, like Memphis. I also am
really interested to see what the deal with her uncle is.
Katastrofekat : I also found Memphis interesting and I'm super excited to
find out what blind Bills role is in all of this. First I didn't
think he would come back in the story as anything other than
"just-another-bystander" but then towards the end his
character really changed I felt like we were taken for a spin with
him.
Kiwie : Yes! Is he a diviner too or something else? He really
blindsided (ha ha...) me with his ability.
Katastrofekat : I got more of an impression of him as maybe a former
diviner. Like if he used to have powers, but after he went blind he
lost them and now he has to tap into the powers of new diviners to
even see clearly in his own dreams.
Kiwie :Ah, good theory. Because they came along before, and that
lady whats-her-name who showed up at the end and talked to Evies
uncle, might be one too, or at least have some knowledge. I'm also
curious about people losing their abilities, and Evie getting
headaches and her uncle being worried about it. What is the drawback
(outside too much unwanted information) of these powers? And why does
the uncle not share what he knows with Evie, there clearly is
something he's not telling.
Kiwie :I get that he is trying to protect her, but by the end of the
novel it's a bit too late...
Katastrofekat : Yeah, I thought the same thing. I also guess that there is
more to the story with his assistant (what's his name?)
Kiwie :Yeah, Jericho. Also there is the whole thing with Sam. I just
want more, immediately.
Katastrofekat : Me too. I thought a book of almost six hundred pages would be
enough, but it's not. I would gladly have added another hundred pages
to the story.
Kiwie : Libba! Hurry up and get us the next one! Well, don't hurry
too much, because a terrible sequel is pointless.
Katastrofekat : Yes, write like the wind, but do not compromise the quality
of the book!
Kiwie :Yup!
Kiwie :What was the least likeable thing about the novel?
Katastrofekat : Not so much the story, it was just that there where a lot of
characters who got introduced briefly and then we never got to know
them. Like Henry and the girl form the china restaurant, who could
walk in dreams. I hope some of them comes back in the next book.
Also, the police officer kind of annoyed me a bit.
Katastrofekat : And maybe the ending was a bit rushed, but still loved it.
Kiwie :Ah, yeah the china restaurant girl was strange, like an omen
of a sort. Henry could also walk in dreams couldn't he? I'm expecting
his return in the next one. I wonder if Evie will be the main
character or perhaps someone else? Like Sam, Theta, Henry, Memphis or
Jericho? Or even Mabel, although probably not, she's currently
destined to get into trouble with that guy she suddenly fell for.
Kiwie : That annoyed me a lot. Mabel is supposed to be somewhat
smart, at least not stupid, so why did she get so instantly attracted
to that dude? Unless it is revealed that he's got some sort of power
that does that, I don't like it.
Katastrofekat : Yes, an omen! That was the word I was looking for!
Katastrofekat : That is true, that bit with Mabel on the end was kind of out
of character for her. Also, I think that it was a bit of a easy way
out by the author, as in real life if Evie and Jericho got together,
Mabel would be disappointed, at least for a while. With that new guy
she kind of avoided the whole issue.
Kiwie : Yes, I thought that too. I don't like that. It does keep the
plot free of a certain kind of drama, but Evie attracts that sort of
thing, and I don't see why it shouldn't be there. Or Mabel could just
fall out of love with Jericho after getting to know him, getting
criticised by him and figuring out that she didn't really like him
after all. She had a distance crush on him up until Evie forced them
Kiwie : together. It would
be easier to just let her fall out of love with him. Better.
Katastrofekat : Yepp.
Katastrofekat : I wonder if uncle Will will continue being such a push-over
in the next book, or if he will finally learn to say no to Evie. She
kind of need to hear that word sometimes I think. Or maybe that will
be Jericho's job now?
Kiwie : Mhm. I wanted to scream at Evie in the end, when she talked
to the reporters. It was such a *headdesk* moment for me.
Kiwie :Nothing good will come of that.
Katastrofekat : You said it. She don't know when to stop, that girl. But
then again, if she did, her personality wouldn't be as fleshed out as
it was. But someone really should tell her to stop sometimes.
Kiwie :Yeah, and not just by sending her away because she is too
much. Her parents did it, then her uncle tried to do it (which is why
she talked to the reporters). She needs someone to level with her and
explain things to her. Flaws all around (which is good, but
frustrating sometimes).
Katastrofekat : yeah. I kind of felt sorry for Evie sometimes, since it
seems like people generally don't listen to her and when she tries to
get attention by using her diviners powers, they just want to send
her away.
Kiwie : Yes, because she is attention seeking and spontaneous to a
fault she is ignored. Wanting to have fun and be famous does not mean
that you have to be a bad person or stupid, and I think Evie proved
that she is neither of those things.
Katastrofekat : I agree. It would be fun if any of the other characters were
to be the main in the next book, but I think I would miss Evie a lot
if her part in the series got smaller actually. I don't think it
would be the same book without her.
Kiwie :True. Her instinct is what drove this ahead a lot. I still
want more of the others though, so the next one will have to be twice
as long... I wonder what will happen with Sam and his crush on her
too. He's seems like the type to create trouble.
Katastrofekat : He does. But I kind of expect him to go off looking for his
mother in the next book, and not be such a big part of Evies life. Or
perhaps there will be drama between him, Jericho and Evie?
Kiwie :Yeah, he is more concerned with his mother than Evie I
think, and he does not like falling for Evie so he might just leave
that alone. It is also possible that there is no Evie and Jericho,
because they both have valid reasons for not wanting to date the
other, even if they are attracted to each other. I wonder if the next
one will start right after this one, or jump ahead in time.
Katastrofekat : I kind of hope it will start of where this one ended, as I
felt like the ending was a bit rushed, so continuing on from there
would tie it nicely together.
Kiwie : It's a typical book in a series ending though, like the
main plot (Naughty John) wrapped up nicely and then some stuff
happened to make us want to read the next one. Which in this case
wasn't needed. I would have picked up the next one with out without
all the possible drama that was set up in those last pages.
Katastrofekat : Yeah. I think someone woud have to knock me unconscious to
keep me from reading the next book!
Kiwie :Let's not forget about Naughty John, how great of a bad guy
was he?
Katastrofekat : I think he might be the best bad guy since Sauron! He was
really creepy and reading about him kind of made me want to check
under my bed, to be sure he wasn't hiding there!
Kiwie : I know. He's this nut job of a ghost who was raised in a
cult! He's awesome. He is my new favorite ghostly killer (Maureen
Johnson's Jack the Ripper in the Name of the Star being the one
getting dethroned here). I also loved how they had to get rid of him
according to his beliefs, because they were strong enough to bring
him back from the dead. This makes me wonder what other kinds of
shenanigans people in this universe can get up to, if belief is that
strong.
Katastrofekat : Mhm! Also, when Evie looked into his youth, even though he
was a creepy psychopath, I felt kind of bad for him as well, growing
up in that crazy cult, being branded with hot iron from his was
little and all. It's like he might be the bad guy, but you can sort
of still understand why he does what he does. Also, I loved that Evie
used the coin from her brother to banish him, because it was holy to
her. I
Kiwie : The best villains are like that. Mhm, the coin thing was also
great, another proof of individual belief.
Monday, 10 December 2012
The Diviners by Libba Bray
Title: The Diviners
Author: Libba Bray
First published in 2012
It is book #1 in a series.
What we're told is inside (copied from goodreards):
It's 1920s New York City. It's flappers and Follies, jazz and gin. It's after the war but before the depression. And for certain group of bright young things it's the opportunity to party like never before.
For Evie O'Neill, it's escape. She's never fit in in small town Ohio and when she causes yet another scandal, she's shipped off to stay with an uncle in the big city. But far from being exile, this is exactly what she's always wanted: the chance to show how thoroughly modern and incredibly daring she can be.
But New York City isn't about just jazz babies and follies girls. It has a darker side. Young women are being murdered across the city. And these aren't crimes of passion. They're gruesome. They're planned. They bear a strange resemblance to an obscure group of tarot cards. And the New York City police can't solve them alone.
Evie wasn't just escaping the stifling life of Ohio, she was running from the knowledge of what she could do. She has a secret. A mysterious power that could help catch the killer - if he doesn't catch her first.
Kristine's expectations:
I must admit, I've read the first couple of chapters already and I am very exited. I've read Libba Bray before and liked it, while this is an entirely different book I expect the writing to be in the same league (I read Beauty Queens). I know that this book is set in New York City in the 1920s and that there is a great evil about. 1920s = one of my favorite eras and in combination with mystique/the supernatural I'm so in (also I keep imagining my grandmother, who I never met, with her friends playing with ouija boards in the living room while the men had drinks and cigarettes in the dining room. Which is a thing that happended, much later than the 20s, but still). This books is long though, as long as the last one we read and that didn't work out so well for us (if mine wasn't an e-book I would have thrown it into the wall like Katastrofekat did...), but the language is, so far, much lighter and flowier. If that makes sense.
Katastrofekat's expectations:
This is my first time reading anything by Libba Bray, so honestly I don't know what to expect from this book. The 1920s are fascinating, but my only experience with it before going into this book, is what I have seen in movies. So I think this book will be a very new experience for me. I really hope I will like it, and as long as it isn't as complicated and dryly written as the last book we read (which annoyed me to no end), I think I will find something to like. I'm a big fan of books with a supernatural undertone, so I hope that's not just a minor plot point.
Author: Libba Bray
First published in 2012
It is book #1 in a series.
What we're told is inside (copied from goodreards):
It's 1920s New York City. It's flappers and Follies, jazz and gin. It's after the war but before the depression. And for certain group of bright young things it's the opportunity to party like never before.
For Evie O'Neill, it's escape. She's never fit in in small town Ohio and when she causes yet another scandal, she's shipped off to stay with an uncle in the big city. But far from being exile, this is exactly what she's always wanted: the chance to show how thoroughly modern and incredibly daring she can be.
But New York City isn't about just jazz babies and follies girls. It has a darker side. Young women are being murdered across the city. And these aren't crimes of passion. They're gruesome. They're planned. They bear a strange resemblance to an obscure group of tarot cards. And the New York City police can't solve them alone.
Evie wasn't just escaping the stifling life of Ohio, she was running from the knowledge of what she could do. She has a secret. A mysterious power that could help catch the killer - if he doesn't catch her first.
Kristine's expectations:
I must admit, I've read the first couple of chapters already and I am very exited. I've read Libba Bray before and liked it, while this is an entirely different book I expect the writing to be in the same league (I read Beauty Queens). I know that this book is set in New York City in the 1920s and that there is a great evil about. 1920s = one of my favorite eras and in combination with mystique/the supernatural I'm so in (also I keep imagining my grandmother, who I never met, with her friends playing with ouija boards in the living room while the men had drinks and cigarettes in the dining room. Which is a thing that happended, much later than the 20s, but still). This books is long though, as long as the last one we read and that didn't work out so well for us (if mine wasn't an e-book I would have thrown it into the wall like Katastrofekat did...), but the language is, so far, much lighter and flowier. If that makes sense.
Katastrofekat's expectations:
This is my first time reading anything by Libba Bray, so honestly I don't know what to expect from this book. The 1920s are fascinating, but my only experience with it before going into this book, is what I have seen in movies. So I think this book will be a very new experience for me. I really hope I will like it, and as long as it isn't as complicated and dryly written as the last book we read (which annoyed me to no end), I think I will find something to like. I'm a big fan of books with a supernatural undertone, so I hope that's not just a minor plot point.
Wednesday, 5 December 2012
The court of the air, review by Katastrofekat
First
impression of the book was that this was going to be a heavy read and
would probably take some time to finnish. It was hard to get a grip
of the universe where the book takes place. We are thrown directly
into the story and we didn't get to know anything about the
backstory. We get introduced to the two main characters in the story,
but we don't get to know a lot about them.
A
few chapters into the book, the pace picked up and the story became
more engaging. I really wanted to keep reading because I wanted to
know what would happen next, but I still felt quite confused, as the
rules of the universe are still being revealed.
The
world was very different from what I was expecting. The world has a
very complex political system and it is inhabited by many different
creatures, but again we don't get any backstory for any of the
creatures, so it is confusing. A lot of names and new words are throw
our way, but since this book doesn't have a dictionary I felt like I
had to guess what the author ment. There is also magic in the book,
which I wouldn't have guessed going into it.
I
think the story might have been good if it were written differently,
but I have to say I find it a bit difficult to keep reading, as it
feels like I'm constantly is getting hit with new facts. It actually
feels like parts of the book smacks you in the face. I want to feel
more submerged in the story, but so far I'm finding it hard as the
story is so dense with facts and at the same time it's like I can't
get my head around all the facts and make them fit together.
Also,
there is no map in the book and that makes it hard to imagine how
this world is built up. I really think the book would read a bit
easier for me with a map.
I
also think i find the story a bit slow because there is very little
description in the book. Here we are, in a whole new univers with
things that don't exist, but they aren't described so it is hard for
me to imagine what things look like and thus get into the swing of
the story. Also I felt like the book was kind of superficial, we
never got to now how the characters felt about the things that was
happening to them.
I
really want to like the book, but it feels a bit like the way the
book is written is fighting me.
When
I start to get into the rhythm of the book and it feels like I'm
finally understanding what the writer writes about, he skips to
something else entirely and I feel just as lost once again.
Also, it kind of annoyed me that the book was named the Court of the Air, when the actual court of the air is only mentioned about ten times and we never get to know much about it.
I
spent the last thirty pages of the book eagerly waiting for the last
page, so I could put an end to the book by throwing it in the wall
(and that is why I bought the pocket edition, and not the e-book).
Kristine thinks out loud about The Court of the Air
I'm not going to write a long post about The Court of the Air. I read the kindle edition and it was riddled with spelling errors (wor ds we re n ot who le) and the text would jump from one perspective/person/scene to another WITH NO WARNING! This was not a stream-of-consciousness novel, so I'm guessing it should not have done that. More air please! Someone should rectify this, but I'm guessing nobody will.
Now, I'm going to rattle of some points in a few lists and try not to spoil too much, but I am going to do this anyway: SPOLER ALERT! There might be bits and bobs revealed, I do not feel that any of the information below will spoil the storyline, but the world that is built in the novel will be poked and prodded at a bit. Time for lists:
The good:
More depth to the characters, a map and a glossary and I would have loved this novel. Somehow I also think it would have been better longer, if chopped up into several shorter novels, or parts at least. The flow was wrong.
Now, I'm going to rattle of some points in a few lists and try not to spoil too much, but I am going to do this anyway: SPOLER ALERT! There might be bits and bobs revealed, I do not feel that any of the information below will spoil the storyline, but the world that is built in the novel will be poked and prodded at a bit. Time for lists:
The good:
- I'm fascinated by the steam creatures (steammen) that have a life of their own, that become deactivate when their life ends. I'd like to learn more about them, they are workers, warriors and a race of their own, and I love the "ending" created for them (I say "ending" because this book is the first in a series). They also call the humans softbodies, which I found so charming that I'd like to befriend one (even if some of them found the softbodies weak etc.)
- Epic world!
- Mu-bodies!
- I also liked the Carlists, the royalists, the circlist etc. The politics and religion aspect, though it was tedious at times, it was nice to have, and easy to draw parallels with our world, which is cool.
- The court of the air = cool, but (oh uh, we're heading into the bad prematurely) they weren't important enough to have the title of the novel I think.
- Maps! I wish there were maps!
- Glossary, I really wish there was one. Stephen Hunt made up words and things and I'd like a decent explanation, and sometimes he used words in other context than those I've seen them in before, and while the kindle comes with a dictionary and I am able to undestand things through context, I'd still like a dictionary, with explanations not just of words, but of what exactly a Carlist is etc., and maybe even who some of the characters are because there are so many and we only see parts of this world (which I would love to explore more I just don't know if I can get throguh another of these novels).
- The first half (or thereabout, I made a note at 41%) was too long, to boring, I struggled with it when I was in my last third I enjoyed myself for the first time. I bet a bunch of readers put this down before that!
- Molly and Oliver were too alike, I realize that they came from different backgrounds and had different abilities, but they were both alone without family (sort of), had an ability (they were the chosen ones in this context, which is fine and I get the whole offence/defence, yin/yang thing), but do they need to be without personalities? Molly likes stories, Oliver likes what? I don't think he has a peronality and most of his skills come from his weapons. Fey is not a personality. I suspect the lack of personality might have a function here (he's easily pushed around), but I still would like some of that for him.
- The throwing of gears, gear-gi-oh or something like that, felt a little like "put a cog on it and call it steampunk". I accepted it and moved on though.
- Too much shoved into a novel. This could be trilogy on its own! Too much information, too few pages, yet too many pages. There is a problem here. Strangely enough I feel as if a lot of this could have been solved by adding illustrations.
More depth to the characters, a map and a glossary and I would have loved this novel. Somehow I also think it would have been better longer, if chopped up into several shorter novels, or parts at least. The flow was wrong.
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